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Saturday, August 08, 2009

response to atheist who feel discriminated

 

there should be no reason to discriminate anyone.


we should all love and have compassion for one another.


as a christian i believe sin is to blame, our nature is in a fallen state, and no matter what we believe in we will all screw up and hurt eachother.


who has never hurt a single soul? no one. we all directly or indirectly have discrimated someone.


"for all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God" romans 3:23


we need grace, (giving someone your love even if they do not merit it). we need forgiveness and reconciliation. that is the direction mankind is longing to move.


i am sorry for all the discrimination 'atheist' have to face. i really despise when christian are self righteous, and condemning on others. Jesus Christ never gave us that right. Nor did he teach us to be that way.


there is so much more to Christianity, than the self ambitions of the Crusade, or right-wing republican agendas, or any other stigma, or label people put on Christians. I hope that people would really take the time to know God more. To really be challenged reading the bible in entirety before knocking it down as some archaic incredulous hand me down. I hear the arguments over and over from people who never even really took the time to take a unbias approach.


well nuff said.


i love my Jesus, i love you guys, and i would never judge you foryour beliefs. you are God's beloved children, greatly made, and more precious than anything on this earth. i hope we can get along better.


Friday, August 07, 2009

responding to atheists "moral instinct"

Go beyond our moral instinct.

Humans can be moral, wherever, whenever.... now to what standard... that depends on your belief system.


But Humans going beyond morality; for example, such as leaving behind their comforts to go to a third world country for the sake of brining them hope, love, compassion, and help... or inviting a homeless person to live in their house, or going to a hospice to spend time with a person with no family or friends, or bathing an elderly person because they can no longer do it by themselves, or cleaning and putting on diapers for people that can not control their bowels nor have the hands and feet, or helping an autistic or diasbled or mentally challenged person to get through their day....and so so so much more..


i don't see why we should just compare morality to not killing/raping/adultery and such. how wicked of a people are we just letting mankind suffer each day. we are the hands and feet that can help the world.


but are so called survival moral code "instinct" by atheist, fails to include compassion, and simply having a heart beyond our own survival.


Atheists have the same heart as a non-atheist. Now what pushes our hearts to go beyond ourselves, that in itself is supernatural.


We are all the same. We should help one another regardless of our beliefs.


Friday, July 24, 2009

KPCM Liturgy Essay 7/26

There is so much more.

After coming back from Yucatan Mission and Synod Youth Retreat 2009, I can say with confidence that God is powerfully moving in our young people. God is faithful to every generation. During this summer, I got to witness the Holy Spirit and how incredible His touch is. From seeing older women being dropped to the floor by God’s Holy fire in Yucatan to praying for a young teenage girl that was shaking on the ground during the final servant’s call at Synod, I am moved. There is something special that is happening here in this generation. Let us not miss it, or let it pass us by. Our God is powerful. He is intense.

July was a tough month for me financially. I missed over two weeks of work for mission and retreat. So having less income and having to spend more money for mission and the retreat was a big sacrifice on my family budget. Not only losing money from work, but having to spend more for God! To a non-Christian it makes no sense, but in God’s family it is part of our call. I am trusting God will provide. But even if it is tough to handle financially, and even if there is no money in my bank, I am soooooo thankful for what He has done in our youth. I am so thankful for the blessings and chances to see God’s Holy power! Can you put a price on the gifts of the Holy Spirit? Our Synod youth counselor, Carol Kim, received the gift of tongues at the retreat. His touch is priceless. Let us be filled by His Spirit. There is so much more to this Christian journey, it is our choice if we want to see and experience more.  

-Steve JDSN


Thursday, August 07, 2008

Youth

Youth.

You are the ones God will use to change our world.

Youth.

There is no limit to what God can do through you.

Youth.

Set the standard high, and don't look back, press on.

Youth.

Now is the time, for you to rise, and demand change.

Youth.

Take our world's ugliness and make it beautiful.

Youth.

For the Glory of our Lord. Jesus Christ.

Youth.

Don't be discouraged. Don't give up.

Youth.

Fight the good fight, the Lord is on your side.

Youth.


Wednesday, February 06, 2008

Professor: You are a Christian, aren't you, son?
교수: 자네는 크리스찬이지?

Student : Yes, sir.
학생: 네, 교수님.

Prof: So you believe in God?
교수: 그래, 자네는 신을 믿는가?

Student : Absolutely, sir.
학생: 물론입니다, 교수님.

Prof: Is God good?
교수: 신은 선한가?

Student : Sure.
학생: 그럼요.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?
교수: 신은 전능한가?

Student : Yes.
학생: 네.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
교수: 내 동생은 신께 고쳐달라고 기도했지만 암으로 죽었네. 대개의 사람들은 누군가 아플때 도와주려 하지. 하지만 신은 그러지 않았네. 이런데도 신이 선한가? 음?

(Student is silent.)
(학생은 침묵한다.)

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?
교수: 대답을 못하는군. 그럼 다시 묻지, 젊은이. 신은 선한가?

Student :Yes.
학생: 네.

Prof: Is Satan good?
교수: 그럼 사탄은 선한가?

Student : No.
학생: 아닙니다.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?
교수: 사탄은 어디서 태어났지?

Student : From...God...
학생: ... 하나님에게서 ... 부터지요..
(하나님은 루시퍼라는 천사를 만드셨다, 후에 타락하여 사탄이 된...)

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
교수: 그렇다네. 그러면 말해보게, 세상에 악이 있는가?

Student : Yes.
학생: 네.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
교수: 악은 어디에나 있지, 그렇지 아니한가? 그리고 신은 모든것을 만들었지. 맞는가?

Student : Yes.
학생: 네.

Prof: So who created evil?
교수: 그렇다면 악은 누가 만들었는가?

(Student does not answer.)
(학생은 대답하지 않는다.)

Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
교수: 세상에는 아픔, 부도덕, 추함 등의 추악한 것들이 존재하지, 그렇지?

Student :Yes, sir.
학생: 그렇습니다, 교수님.

Prof: So, who created them?
교수: 그렇다면 누가 그것들을 만들었나?

(Student has no answer.)
(학생은 대답하지 않는다.)

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
교수: 과학은 사람이 세상은 인지하는데 5가지 감각을 사용한다고 하지. 그렇다면 대답해보게 젊은이, 신을 본적이 있는가?

Student : No, sir.
학생: 못봤습니다, 교수님.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
교수: 그렇다면 신의 목소리를 들어본적 있는가?

Student : No , sir.
학생: 아니오, 교수님.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
교수: 그렇다면 신을 느끼거나, 맛보거나, 냄새맡은 적도 없는가? 신을 어떠한 감각으로도 인지한 적이 있는가?

Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
학생: 아니오, 없습니다. 교수님.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
교수: 그런데도 아직 신을 믿나?

Student : Yes.
학생: 네.

Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
교수: 과학은 경험적이고 실증적인 논증으로 신이 없다고 말하네. 자네는 이것을 어떻게 생각하는가?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
학생: 저는 단지 믿음이 있을 뿐입니다.

Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
교수: 그래, 믿음. 그게 과학이 가지지 못한것이지.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
학생: 교수님, 세상에 열이란 것이 있습니까?

Prof: Yes.
교수: 물론이지.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
학생: 그러면 차가움이란 것도 있겠지요?

Prof: Yes.
교수: 그렇다네.

Student : No sir. There isn't.
학생: 아닙니다 교수님. 그런것은 없지요.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
(강의실은 이 반전에 순간 적막이 흘렀다)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
학생: 교수님, 많은 열, 더 많은 열, 초열, 백열, 아니면 아주 적은 열이나 열의 부재는 있을수 있습니다. 하지만 차가움이란 것은 없지요. 영하 273도의 열의 부재 상태로 만들수는 있지만 그 이하로 만들 수는 없지요. 차가움이란 것이 없기 때문입니다. 차가움이란 단어는 단지 열의 부재를 나타낼 뿐이지 그것을 계량할 수는 없지요. 열은 에너지이지만, 차가움은 열의 반대가 아닙니다 교수님. 그저 열의 부재일 뿐이지요.

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
(강의실은 쥐죽은듯 고요했다.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
학생: 그렇다면 어둠은 어떻습니까, 교수님? 어둠이란 것이 존재하나요?

Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
교수: 그렇지. 어둠이 없다면 밤이 도대체 왜 오는가?

Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
학생: 그렇지 않습니다, 교수님. 어둠 역시 무엇인가 부재하기 때문에 생기지요. 아주 적은 빛, 보통 빛, 밝은 빛, 눈부신 빛이 존재할 수는 있습니다. 하지만 지속적으로 아무 빛도 존재하지 않으면 우리는 어둠이라 부르는 겁니다. 그렇지 않습니까? 실제로 어둠이란 것은 없지요. 만약 있다면 어둠을 더 어둡게 만들수 있겠지요, 그렇수 있나요?

Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
교수: 그래, 요점이 뭔가, 젊은이?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
학생: 교수님, 제 요점은 교수님이 잘못된 전제를 내리시고 있다는 겁니다.

Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
교수: 잘못되었다고? 설명해 줄 수 있겠나?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.
학생: 교수님, 교수님은 이분법적인 오류를 범하고 계십니다. 생명이 있으면 죽음이 있고, 선한 신이 있으면 악한 신이 있다는 논지이지요. 교수님은 하니님을 유한한, 우리가 측정 가능한 분이라 보고 계십니다.
 
Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
교수님, 과학은 우리가 생각할 수 있다는 점 조차 설명을 못합니다. 전기와 자기를 말하지만, 볼수는 없지요. 완벽히 이해할 수 없는건 물론이구요. 죽음을 생명의 반대로 보는건 죽음이란 것이 실재로 존재하지 않는다는 것에 무지해서 그런겁니다. 죽음은 생명의 반대가 아니라 당지 생명의 부재일 뿐이지요. 교수님은 사람이 원숭이에서 진화했다고 가르치십니까?

Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
교수: 자연 진화 과정을 말하는거라면 그렇다네.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
학생: 그렇다면, 진화의 과정을 눈으로 목격한 적이 있습니까, 교수님?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
(교수는 논리가 성립되어감을 보고 미소지으며 고개를 저었다.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
학생: 아무도 진화가 진행되는 과정을 못격하지 못했을 뿐 아니라 그 과정을 증명하지도 못했으니 교수님은 개인의 의견을 가르치시는 거겠군요, 교수님. 마치 과학자가 아닌 연설가 처럼요.

(The class is in uproar.)
(강의실이 웅성이기 시작했다.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
학생: 이 강의실에 교수님의 뇌를 본 사람이 있나요?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)
(강의실 여기저기서 웃음이 터져 나왔다.)

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it?.....No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)
학생: 여기에 교수님의 뇌를 듣거나, 느끼거나, 맛보거나, 냄새맡은 적이 있는분 계십니까? ... 아무도 그런적이 없는것 같군요. 그러면 과학은 경험적이고 실증적인 논증으로 교수님의 뇌가 없다고 말하는군요. 그렇다면 교수님의 강의를 어떻게 신뢰할 수 있습니까?
(강의실은 고요했다. 교수는 심오한 표정으로 학생을 응시했다.)
 
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
교수: 사실을 믿는 수 밖에 없겠군, 젊은이.
 
Student : That is it sir.. The link between man & God is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
학생: 바로 그겁니다, 교수님. 하나님과 인간의 관계는 "믿음" 입니다. 그게 바로 모든것을 움직이고 생명있게 만드는 것이지요.

 



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